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	<description>Keeping it real on stuff that actually matters</description>
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		<title>By: Kylie Batt</title>
		<link>http://www.connersc.com/blog/?p=58&#038;cpage=1#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator>Kylie Batt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 07:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Вы ошиблись, это очевидно....&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://vasha-vakansiya.ru/?p=1541&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt; Disclaimer: This is a personal account of a series of events I was directly involved in. This is merely my perspective.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Вы ошиблись, это очевидно&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://vasha-vakansiya.ru/?p=1541" rel="nofollow"> </a> Disclaimer: This is a personal account of a series of events I was directly involved in. This is merely my perspective&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: the art of war</title>
		<link>http://www.connersc.com/blog/?p=58&#038;cpage=1#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>the art of war</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 04:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;the art of war...&lt;/strong&gt;

...He wrote that . . ....</description>
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<p>&#8230;He wrote that . . &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: burris</title>
		<link>http://www.connersc.com/blog/?p=58&#038;cpage=1#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>burris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without signing agreement to do &quot;work for hire&quot; in advance of actually doing the work or a signed assignment of copyright for the specific works, then any code you have written is yours.  If they ship it or make a derivative without your permission then they are infringing on your Copyright.  You have more options than to just walk away.  Talk to a lawyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without signing agreement to do &#8220;work for hire&#8221; in advance of actually doing the work or a signed assignment of copyright for the specific works, then any code you have written is yours.  If they ship it or make a derivative without your permission then they are infringing on your Copyright.  You have more options than to just walk away.  Talk to a lawyer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.connersc.com/blog/?p=58&#038;cpage=1#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you, I ran into a con man about 25 years ago and it had a profound effect on my thinking, even though in our case it resulted in no loss to our organization.

1. It&#039;s not your fault.  The people saying you are naive have never run into a professional con man.  It is very hard to detect one if you haven&#039;t seen one before.  Maybe you were inexperienced, but so is everyone the first time.

2. As you said, after the fact, there are dozens of clues that they are not playing straight with you.  In my case, we eventually found out that everything the con man ever said was a lie.  Every single word.  In the future, even one &quot;red flag&quot; should make you run for the hills.

3. This guy has no skills except conning people in various ways.  He is not going to be able to build the web site.  Go ahead and use your code and build what you wanted to build.  What&#039;s he going to do?  Sue you for using the code he stole from you?  If you didn&#039;t legally sign the code over to him you still own it.

Good luck!

p.s.  It&#039;s &quot;career&quot;, not &quot;carrier&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you, I ran into a con man about 25 years ago and it had a profound effect on my thinking, even though in our case it resulted in no loss to our organization.</p>
<p>1. It&#8217;s not your fault.  The people saying you are naive have never run into a professional con man.  It is very hard to detect one if you haven&#8217;t seen one before.  Maybe you were inexperienced, but so is everyone the first time.</p>
<p>2. As you said, after the fact, there are dozens of clues that they are not playing straight with you.  In my case, we eventually found out that everything the con man ever said was a lie.  Every single word.  In the future, even one &#8220;red flag&#8221; should make you run for the hills.</p>
<p>3. This guy has no skills except conning people in various ways.  He is not going to be able to build the web site.  Go ahead and use your code and build what you wanted to build.  What&#8217;s he going to do?  Sue you for using the code he stole from you?  If you didn&#8217;t legally sign the code over to him you still own it.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>p.s.  It&#8217;s &#8220;career&#8221;, not &#8220;carrier&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Facu</title>
		<link>http://www.connersc.com/blog/?p=58&#038;cpage=1#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Facu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im really glad that you shared your experience with us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im really glad that you shared your experience with us!</p>
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		<title>By: Dug</title>
		<link>http://www.connersc.com/blog/?p=58&#038;cpage=1#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Dug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott you seem very naive.

In the beginning, what did you really need Tanner for? Brainstorming sessions? No real capital inflow from the guy.

It seemed like after you involved him, the iPhone app become more about an adaptation of his studio than an iPhone app to help people.

I don&#039;t think he was a con-man. Although he definitely had a domineering personality.

Rediculous story. Wish I could hear every one else&#039;s side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott you seem very naive.</p>
<p>In the beginning, what did you really need Tanner for? Brainstorming sessions? No real capital inflow from the guy.</p>
<p>It seemed like after you involved him, the iPhone app become more about an adaptation of his studio than an iPhone app to help people.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he was a con-man. Although he definitely had a domineering personality.</p>
<p>Rediculous story. Wish I could hear every one else&#8217;s side.</p>
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		<title>By: chris make</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris make</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im sorry but anyone who swallows the whole &quot;The Secret&quot; bull like you did is lining themselves up for it.

You made several, nay a multitude, of classic business mistakes that are so naive you come across like a kid. 

Firstly, you have to remember the mantra: &quot;There are NO friends in business&quot;

Secondly, if it aint on paper, it aint worth sheeeeet.

Thirdly, if someone comes in as a &#039;consultant&#039;/&#039;advisor&#039; role, they stay just that.

Hopefully, the experience has wizened you up to the fact that not only did you get reamed but you both grabbed your ankles and begged for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sorry but anyone who swallows the whole &#8220;The Secret&#8221; bull like you did is lining themselves up for it.</p>
<p>You made several, nay a multitude, of classic business mistakes that are so naive you come across like a kid. </p>
<p>Firstly, you have to remember the mantra: &#8220;There are NO friends in business&#8221;</p>
<p>Secondly, if it aint on paper, it aint worth sheeeeet.</p>
<p>Thirdly, if someone comes in as a &#8216;consultant&#8217;/'advisor&#8217; role, they stay just that.</p>
<p>Hopefully, the experience has wizened you up to the fact that not only did you get reamed but you both grabbed your ankles and begged for it.</p>
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		<title>By: What a Concept! » iStoleYourStartup: A story of an iPhone Company &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.connersc.com/blog/?p=58&#038;cpage=1#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>What a Concept! » iStoleYourStartup: A story of an iPhone Company &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the whole story here: skottie aggregated by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gringo</title>
		<link>http://www.connersc.com/blog/?p=58&#038;cpage=1#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrible story, and I&#039;m really sorry for you.

And I hate to say this, but it has to be said: beware the con-men in government who promise you untold riches and freebies in exchange for your vote, too.

What Tanner did was borderline illegal, and nasty... but if he was a politician, and doing it in government, people would call him &quot;a man of the people.&quot;

So beware that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrible story, and I&#8217;m really sorry for you.</p>
<p>And I hate to say this, but it has to be said: beware the con-men in government who promise you untold riches and freebies in exchange for your vote, too.</p>
<p>What Tanner did was borderline illegal, and nasty&#8230; but if he was a politician, and doing it in government, people would call him &#8220;a man of the people.&#8221;</p>
<p>So beware that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.connersc.com/blog/?p=58&#038;cpage=1#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serves you right if you ask me. A lesson learnt the hard way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serves you right if you ask me. A lesson learnt the hard way.</p>
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